Bible Study

Isn’t A Moedim Code of Conduct Adding to Torah?

Isn’t A Moedim Code of Conduct Adding to Torah?

Are you struggling with the Moedim Code of Conduct in your fellowship?

I am so humbled and so sad right now, having just gained some insight into something that has been filling my mind, but at the same time, I realize I cannot at this time, attend the Sukkot with the local group I have found. This realization of scriptures also tells me that an Torah observant HOA is BAD idea, if it is on a religious basis, because to put anything religious in the agreement, would be calling myself a leader, especially if Moedim Code of Conduct type agreements were involved.

Debarim 4

2“Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from ita, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you.
I simply cannot check “agree” to a “code of conduct” in good conscience. If it says anything regarding limiting or defining my acceptible behavior, then it is adding to Torah, and those who write it, are calling themselves leaders. I do not want to be guilty as well with an HOA. I’d be going against Mashiach, as I will explain in the following words and scriptures.
I believe Mashiach’s parables and teachings tell us how to interpret Torah, so that we veer not, too far to the left or right, but stay on the narrow path in order to travel through the strait gate.
Because of Mashiach’s words, I have much to say about this “authority” that is being placed over some folks’ ability to enter HIS covenant, by keeping HIS MOEDIM, with whom they would like to be their Mishpacha. This “authority” is: requiring people to agree to or adhere to a code of conduct, that says anything other than:
“I will abide by Torah as best I can, and can attest that those along with me on my campsite agree, for the endurance of the Sukkot feast”.
Remember, Mashiach said:

“Let your Yes be Yes, and Your No, be No”


Some codes of conduct may have things like:

1)A set hierarchy of elders
2)A dress code other than what is specified in Torah…
or other qualifications that people may disagree on spiritually.
So is it wrong to have a Moedim code of conduct that one must agree to in order to attend?
I come to my family in YHWH, bearing the burden of not just me, but perhaps other men and women who feel the same way. If we are to keep HIS covenant, then we should not be stumbling blocks to each other. And we must rebuke sin, or the blood of the sinner is on our own hands. If by the end of this post, you choose to agree to, or require a Moedim code of conduct, then it is none my fault, and my hands are clean.

I consider this an issue of breaking Torah, therefore sin, and am taking this matter to the elder, Yahshua, my one Rabbi, in the presence of my Mishpacha.


My Questions For Those Planning to attend a Sukkoth with a code of conduct:

1) Who are the Sukkoth “leaders” you must agree with, and agree to having, if any? How were they selected if Yahshua is to be the one to select them? Especially considering these verses:
Matthew 23
8“But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi,’ for One is your Teacher, the Messiah, and you are all brothers.
9“And do not call anyone on earth your father, for One is your Father, He who is in the heavens.
10“NEITHER BE CALLED LEADERS, for One is your Leader, the Messiah.
11“But the greatest among you shall be your servant.
12“And whoever exalts himself shall be humbled, and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted.”
Was it by democratic vote, letting the Ruach work through folks? Would that count as Yahshua selecting the captains over 100s, 50s, and 10s? How could you be sure that all those who voted were in the Ruach (circumcised/has the right), thereby allowing Yahshua to truly elect this person, if He has not yet returned? Do women get to vote? Only single women with no father? Do these same leaders declare the husbands (themselves) as leaders over the wives? Is that even okay? Isn’t that a man calling himself a leader over his wife?


As you can see, I don’t really agree with hierarchy

Even though the Pentatuach sets one up. It is one of the things that Yahshua specifically said has ended. I am studying the issue of the Melchizedek priesthood, and I believe it has to do with that; how Yahshua was restored as High MalokZadok Priest, ending the Levitical priesthood. Does this pertain to all of the 613 laws? One would have to go through them one by one, and see which ones were for them at that time, and which ones were for all eternity, (such as the sabbaths and the definition of clean/unclean).

I am not saying all laws ended, or that we should not wear our Tzitziyots, but I am also not trying to lengthen them and require upper chambers at feasts, like the scribes and pharisees Mashiach rebuked.

I am assuming the fathers (who will inevitably be listed as “leaders” over their wives in any RELIGIOUS Moedim code of conduct) are the married men and fathers? Is that correct? So we must agree that men rule over their wives, as if they are cursed like Eve? But I am commanded to have one father, one leader: Mashiach! So I cannot call my husband my leader, putting the fate of my soul onto him. And my husband and I are both commanded not to call ourselves leaders, so he cannot put himself in authority over me.

Can anyone show me in Torah where it says that a husband is responsible for the fate of his wife’s soul?

This is in contrast to fulfilling or invalidating her pledges (which directly affect his behaviour). I know they are one flesh, and that Adam ruled over Eve, but that was a result of Eve eating of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (religion), and I do not eat of that tree. YHWH does not punish me for her sins. YHWH does not necessarily punish men for Adam’s sins either.

For example:

Exodus 20 (parentheses mine):
1And Elohim spoke all these Words, saying,
2“I am יהוה your Elohim, who brought you out of the land of Mitsrayim, OUT OF THE HOUSE OF SLAVERY.” (My husband does not treat me as a slave, having authority over me, for I am YHWH’s and he brought me out of slavery =) )
3“You have no other mighty ones against My face (I answer to YHWH/Yahshua, above all, not my husband, or any elders. We confer regularly and decide together but only YHWH has authority over my soul/behavior since there are no priests at this time for Yahshua to select)
4“You do not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of that which is in the heavens above, or which is in the earth beneath, or which is in the waters under the earth,” (or also an Idol as something that gets between a sheep and the Father, like a husband claiming authority over a wife and she obeys him, while disobeying YHWH? Or an elder requiring an agreement that adds to Torah in order to attend a commanded feast?)
5″You do not bow down to them nor serve them” (So this does not apply to women being subservient to their husbands?). “For I, יהוה your Elohim am a jealous Ěl, visiting the crookedness of the fathers on the children to the THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATIONS of those who hate Me,”
6but showing kindness to THOUSANDS, to those who love Me and GUARD MY COMMANDS.” (I do not have the curse of Eve according to this… do you?)

My father and his father both loved YHWH very much. My father especially as he guards the commands and name, so I fall under the following passage… do you?

Ezekiel 18 (note that it also says we are not punished for the sins of our parents in this chapter):

30“Therefore I judge you, O house of Yisra’ĕl, EVERY ONE ‘according to his ways’ (derek 1870 Strongs),” declares the Master יהוה.

Is this only referring to men? And only men are to be leaders? We are commanded by my Mashiach to not follow any man, but only HIM. To ask “one” (male or female) to do otherwise is leading one to to sin. To lead one to sin is not a good idea!

I have heard some Hebrew men claim that they rule over their wives, even though she is a cleansed redeemed, woman, and her sins have been forgotten. Some men say that they can corporeally punish their wives. Bad fruit like that does not come from a good tree. I will show you in scripture how wife beating, as well as holding authority over/enslaving a woman, other than a daughter (and equally a son) is the spirit of the anti-Messiah. All women are not Eve, and Eve is not every woman.


37and have no regard for the mighty ones of his fathers NOR FOR THE DESIRE OF WOMEN, nor have regard for any mighty one, but exalt himself ABOVE THEM ALL (including Mashiach!).

Matthew 22:

29And יהושע answering, said to them, “You go astray, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of Elohim.”
30“For in the resurrection they do not marry, nor are they given in marriage, but are as messengers of Elohim in heaven.
34But the Pharisees, having heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, were gathered together,
35and one of them, one learned in the Torah, did question, trying Him, and saying,
36“Teacher, which is the great command in the Torah?”
37And יהושע said to him, “ ‘You shall love יהוה your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your mind.’
38“This is the first and great command.
39“And the second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbour (Strong’s Greek 4139, Plesion; nearby a neighbor) as yourself.’
40“On these two commands hang all the Torah and the Prophets.”

The most basic understanding of this, that we should love our “neighbor”  as ourselves, equally applies to males and females.

If there were a difference in how they should be treated it would have been specific. Most likely a difference outside of Torah would be enforced in a man-made Moedim code of conduct.  But Yahshua does not use “unequal measures”. He obeys Torah. Actually He IS Torah! So this overarching command would equally apply to wives, and female guests at a Moedim.
Every man, also, does not have the curse of Adam does he? Otherwise there would be no organic fruit at the markets in Israel, would there? For the ground was cursed for Adam. Surely some men must have escaped that curse that he took by eating the apple? Perhaps his curse was not listening to his wife, alone, but disobeying YHWH in the process. He must answer to YHWH just as she does. They each received a curse that applied equally to their individual biologies.  The human race would not exist at this point in time, if that curse applied to every man.

In our home, we confer with each other, solve problems together, and regard each other with equal authority, while celebrating the differences in our sexes.

In my studying, I have learned that applying treatment equally among both sexes, regarding family decisions, as well as expectations of modesty, is in line with the Torah, just as Yahshua’s command of loving our neighbors as ourselves, is in line with Torah.

For example:

Debarim 35:

13“You shall not have in your bag differing weights, a heavy and a light.
14“You shall not have IN YOUR HOUSE differing measures, a large and a small.
15“You shall have a perfect and right weight, a perfect and right measure, so that they prolong your days on the soil which יהוה your Elohim is giving you.
16“For all who do these, and all who do unrighteously, are an abomination to יהוה your Elohim.
This applies to women. As one flesh (not one soul) with their husbands, the land their husband inherited was also theirs, was it not? If he died, with no sons or brothers, did the daughter not inherit the land? So could this statement “on the soil which your Elohim is giving you” not apply to women? Those who would not stand to inherit, even as widows had provisions made for them.

As one male at my local fellowship pointed out, “Debra even ruled over men,” and I am certain she was made judge by fair and just means.

The spirit of the anti-Messiah is thick in any group that tries to hold authority over any of it’s members. Fellowship is important because the spirit moves when 2 or 3 are gathered in His name, and we feel filled. After fellowship, I often feel that I can go home at the end of the day, take what I heard, to my ONE Rabbi, Yahshua/YHWH. I believe the Ruach will guide me, along with scripture, as to how to incorporate those opinions into my life. I love hearing all of the differing perspectives, but at the end of the day, I only participate in groups that allow me to remain responsible for my own redemption. Not my husband, not my father, not any “elders” but just me.

That does not mean we should not judge and rebuke each other per the guidelines of Torah.

That is why I rebuke any and all who call themselves leaders, having not been selected by the helper, sent to us, when Yahshua left.  Or by asserting spiritual/behavioral authority over anyone who wishes to attend a Moedim, with those they have otherwise been equally fellowshipping with!  Perhaps a vote would allow the Ruach, the helper, to decide the leaders? Even so, if Yahshua said “call no man leader” then would it be the true Ruach helping to decide which women/men that would be?

Daniel 11 describing the Anti-Messiah (parentheses mine) EMPHASIS MINE

36“And the sovereign shall do as he pleases, and EXALT HIMSELF and show himself to be great above every mighty one, and SPEAK INCREDIBLE MATTERS (like difficult Moedim code of conduct) against the Ěl of mighty ones, and shall prosper until the wrath has been accomplished – for what has been decreed shall be done –
37and have no regard for the mighty ones of his fathers NOR FOR THE DESIRE OF WOMEN, nor have regard for any mighty one, but exalt himself above them all.
38“But in his place he shall give esteem to a mighty one of strongholds. And to a mighty one which his fathers did not know he shall give esteem with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts (like expensive Hebrew garments for dress codes).
Again, we are to cover our nakedness, but where is nakedness defined? Does the Moedim code of conduct you must agree to, address the COMMAND of not mixing fabric, if there is to be a dress code? Are we all considered priests now, as any dress code seems to imply, based on Exodus 20? If so, then how can it be applied to women unless you say that a woman can be a Levite priest?

With love and hope for equal measure, I share this. The thought of a Moedim Code of Conduct makes me


to be honest. We are to overcome, and I am overcoming a lifetime of sin, but I consider Yahshua and his helper a good person to decide my behavior, now that I am in covenant. If fellowship, or any other gathering, were at any one individual’s home, I could understand them having rules for their home, but this article refers to Moedim and they belong to YHWH, so we should not add to or take away from any of HIS rules (Debarim).

A few more verses, explaining why I am so infuriated at the idea of Moedim Code of Conduct

Matthew 7 ISR

1“Do not judge, lest you be judged.
2“For with what judgment you judge, YOU SHALL BE JUDGED. And with the same measure you use, it shall be measured to you. (dress the way you expect the women to dress but with men’s clothes! cover the same amount! Do you layer your clothes so that your nipples don’t show? What about wearing many layers in hot weather? Do you wear a tunic that covers your bottom? Expect from others what you give in this regard, or do not judge them and hold authority over them)
3“And why do you look at the splinter in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the plank in your own eye?
4“Or how is it that you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the splinter out of your eye,’ and see, a plank is in your own eye?
5“Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you shall see clearly to remove the splinter out of your brother’s eye.
I believe this (while not mentioning any sexual organs) applies equally across the sexes. For example, if you put a judgment on the Sukkoth, by forcing anyone who participates, to “agree” to certain rules that are ADDING TO TORAH, then, are you not sinning? Are you not leading others to sin, in calling you a leader? Or do you claim you are elected by Him? Should you not be rebuked? 

I challenge any men who support Moedim dress codes for women, to put together 8 days worth of clothing, out of their own wardrobes, that follow the ideal dress code given to the women: including layers, tunics/long shirts, undergarments, etc.

I also challenge these men to do this WHILE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING TORAH, to the degree of not wearing mixed fabrics (a blend of cotton with synthetic, or wool and leather, etc).

I further challenge them to make these choices weather appropriate, so that they do not freeze or overheat, leading to health concerns.

 In my family, we try hard to follow TORAH and have been gradually increasing my wardrobe of 100% cotton as I can AFFORD it.  We are in the process of overcoming. We are in our own walk with Mashiach. I will not not forego a COMMAND to please men who seem to quote the Talmud instead! My wardrobe has not yet overcome the challenges of getting 100% fabrics (not synthetic “blends” which hold heat and bacteria). If I were to buy any new clothes for a Moedim, Torah would be the PRIORITY.
Wouldn’t it be sad if people in a fellowship spent money on Mixed fabric to appease a “dress code” that ADDS to Torah? It would be as if they were being led astray!
What if, because of these mixed fabrics they were encouraged to wear, DUE TO “HEAVY BURDENS TIED BY MEN” … they overheated (with their mixed synthetics) and ended up in the ER? Does this mean the woman in the ER in her many layers of MIXED FABRICS, is simply cursed like Eve?

Or perhaps does bad fruit come from a bad tree?

Still think you want to agree to, or enforce, a Moedim code of conduct? Why not untie these heavy burdens? Or take up offerings for these priestly garments we are all (male and female I would hope!) to wear? If you would like to require special set apart garments for the sheep, help provide them. Perhaps those in fellowship who can afford to dress that way all the time, or want to lay this burden, should donate monies for those who cannot? Or donate clothing to those who don’t meet their desire? Even still, in requiring that which is not commanded in Torah, at a MOEDIM, no less, isn’t that shutting up the heavens to them?
Which reminds me:

Matthew 23 ISR

1Then יהושע spoke to the crowds and to His taught ones,
2saying, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on the seat of Mosheh.
3“Therefore, whatever they say to you to guard, guard and do. But do not do according to their works, for they say, and do not do.
5“And they do all their works to be seen by men, and they make their t’fillen wide and lengthen the tzitziyota of their garments,
6and they love the best place at feasts, and the best seats in the congregations,
7and the greetings in the market-places, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’
8“But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi,’ for One is your Teacher, the Messiah, and you are all brothers (Strong’s Greek 80 adelphos, possibly: from the same womb: siblings, of the same Mishpacha).
9“And do not call anyone on earth your father, for One is your Father, He who is in the heavens.

10“NEITHER BE CALLED LEADERS, for One is your Leader, the Messiah.

11“But the greatest among you shall be your servant.
12“And whoever exalts himself shall be humbled, and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted.
13“But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because YOU SHUT UP THE REIGN OF HEAVENS BEFORE MEN (Strong’s Greek 444, anthropos : mankind), for you do not go in, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.
14“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you eat up widows’ houses, and for a show make long prayers. Because of this you shall receive greater judgment.
15“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you go about the land and the sea to win one convert, and when he is won, you make him a son of Gehenna twofold more than yourselves.
16“Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the Dwelling Place, it does not matter, but whoever swears by the gold of the Dwelling Place, is bound by oath.’
17“Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the Dwelling Place that sets the gold apart?
18“And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it does not matter, but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, is bound by oath.’
19“Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sets the gift apart?
20“He, then, who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all that is upon it.
21“And he who swears by the Dwelling Place, swears by it and by Him who is dwelling in it.
22“And he who swears by the heaven, swears by the throne of Elohim and by Him who is sitting upon it.
23“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you tithe the mint and the anise and the cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the Torah: the right-ruling and the compassion and the belief. These need to have been done, without neglecting the others.
24“Blind guides – straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!
25“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are filled with plunder and unrighteousness.

26“Blind Pharisee, first clean the inside of the cup and dish, so that the outside of them becomes clean too.

27“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you are like whitewashed tombs which outwardly indeed look well, but inside are filled with dead men’s bones and all uncleanness.
28“So you too outwardly indeed appear righteous to men, but inside you are filled with hypocrisy and lawlessness.
29“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous,
30and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in the blood of the prophets.’
31“Thus you bear witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who did murder the prophets –
32and you fill up the measure of your fathers!
33“Serpents, brood of adders! How would you escape the judgment of Gehenna?
34“Because of this, see, I send you prophets, and wise men, and scholars of Scripture. Some of them you shall kill and impale, and some of them you shall flog in your congregations and persecute from city to city,
35so that on you should come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Heḇel to the blood of Zeḵaryah, son of Bereḵyah, whom you murdered between the Dwelling Place and the altar.
36“Truly, I say to you, all this shall come upon this generation.
37“Yerushalayim, Yerushalayim, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to her! How often I wished to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, but you would not!
38“See! Your house is left to you laid waste,
39for I say to you, from now on you shall by no means see Me, until you say, ‘Blessed is He who is coming in the Name of יהוה!’ ”

I believe that a Moedim code of conduct, and possibly an HOA agreement (with elders) adding to or taking away from Torah, is sinful.

It is absolutely against Mashiach. TORH in the Hebrew does not mean “the first five books”, but the “Mark of the authority of the Ruach”! Break the letter meanings down for yourself! That includes the prophets, the Sinai laws, AND the words of Mashiach.

We are not commanded to elect elders. We are commanded TO HAVE NO ELDERS other than Mashiach!

Moshe elected elders, but Yahshua clarified that was for him and NOT US.

I will not acknowledge any authority of any man over me, other than my ONE RABBI, ONE FATHER! To require people wishing to go to a feast to “agree” to a code of conduct adding to Torah, CONTRADICTS TORAH! I will let my Yes be Yes and my No be No!
What’s wrong with “We all agree to abide by Torah to the best of our ability and understanding while at Sukkoth” ?????
I would like to give special thanks to Tamar Yael (author of “Gender Equality in Torah” for pointing many of these verses out to me.

View Comments (1)

Leave a Reply

1 Comment

  1. Anaiah

    August 31, 2016 at 10:36 am

    Maybe you could find or start a group gathering where there is no moedim code of conduct for the various moedim.

You must be logged in to post a comment Login

Leave a Reply

Bible Study

Heather Dayvis has a degree in Exercise Science where she completed courses that would prepare her for a career in the medical field. She also has a Musical Theater degree and enjoys adding music and drama to her video productions. She loves using her knowledge and experience to expose the occult, satanic, and pagan origins in mainstream religion, medicine, television, and everything else in the world today. She hopes these articles help you realize your rights and motivate you to stop being afraid of the truth, because "The truth shall set you free!"

More in Bible Study

Having An At Home Sabbath

Alan GeisdorfJuly 29, 2016
polygamy or monogamy

The Problem with Polygamy

Tamar YaelMay 10, 2016

Spotting Waldo (False Apostle Paul), Is Deception That Hard To See?

Alan GeisdorfApril 15, 2016

Eden Cultures Media 2403 W Stan Schlueter Loop #690131 Killeen, Texas 76549

Copyright © 2011-present. Eden Cultures Media